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Smoking Ban: Student government is utilizing propaganda

Written by Adam Desautel Tuesday, 27 October 2009 08:00

Student government has been handing out literature to faculty members of NDSU regarding the smoking ban to try and persuade them on how to vote.

Just like racist, communist, terrorist, or totalitarian organizations, student government has now joined the propaganda distribution club.

The information they are pushing on teachers is nothing short of political spin, lies, and fluffy descriptive words and phrases.

Like this sentence: “The turnout of 3,872 set a historical record for student body elections, far surpassing even past elections for elected student leaders.” 

Any idea why that is? Don’t worry if you don’t, because I’m going to tell you.

It’s because nobody cares about “elections for elected student leaders.” The only people who care about student government are people who are in student government, and they don’t count. 

They are comparing their unscientific online poll they conducted to other unscientific polls that were about things that people probably didn’t know about, and wouldn’t have cared about even if they did.

The very next sentence is even worse on the yellow journalism scale. “This overwhelming display of student interest proved to the campus the seriousness of the issue and the definite call for a change.”

The facts: 3,872 students voted at all, 2,408 supported the smoking ban, and 1,465 opposed it, out of a total of around 13,000. A little less than 20 percent is not an “overwhelming display of student interest,” and I don’t consider that to be sufficient cause for removing civil rights for the other 80 percent of the student body.

This is like the House of Representatives producing an advertising campaign to try to convince the Senate on how they should vote. Only that analogy doesn’t really work, because comparing student government to politicians is an insult to politicians. 

Barely anyone knows what student government’s actual function is, and I’m not even sure they exist.

The pamphlet goes on to talk about secondhand smoke. Want some examples of things it doesn’t say? 

Secondhand smoke only hurts people indoors. We already ban smoking 50 feet from any building, so to make the argument that since this isn’t enforced enough, we need to ban smoking altogether, is like saying that if too many people are speeding, we should just ban the use of cars.

Scientists estimate Fargo to be windier than the planet Jupiter, and you’re worried about outdoor secondhand smoke? If it’s not about that, then I don’t understand the issue. Actually I do; that was rhetorical.

I think this is Student Government’s “pet project,” something they’re pushing to get passed so they can put something meaningful on their resume to say, “Oh look at me! I was involved in banning the use of tobacco at NDSU!”

I think they’re afraid of this whole thing failing, because then they won’t be able to tout it loudly on their soapbox as an accomplishment to whatever employers actually care that someone was in student government. 

I think they want to be able to point to this as something that they did that mattered, whether it’s moral or immoral, conducted fairly or not.

Want to hear the other side of the argument? Check it out here.

Comments  

 
+3 # Josh Hamilton 2009-10-27 10:18
This is a load of crap. Does he even know what he is talking about? Sounds like someone on a power-trip.
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+1 # Kaitlin Doyle 2009-10-27 10:41
From my experiences as a non-smoking student, no one cares about people smoking on campus, especially 50 feet from buildings. It does not inconvenience me or endanger my health to walk past a smoker. It seems like the people who have the biggest problem, or make it known they have a problem, are students in student government. Sadly, I think student government is out of touch with the students.

IF they had good arguments, I would eagerly listen. I'm concerned with my own health, and if I thought I was being harmed by the relatively few smokers on campus, I would want change too. I have seen nothing that makes me think I'm danger.

This is a way to single out a certain group, smokers, and make them unwelcome without offering good evidence that the university should do so.
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# Steven 2009-10-30 13:43
People clearly care about people smoking on campus, otherwise this issues would never have been brought up and voted on.

And yes smoking outdoors is extremely harmful.. just do a quick search on it. Heck, even our country's expert the Surgeon General states it is.

Smokers dont give a crap about anyone but themselves.
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+1 # Steveo 2009-11-18 13:23
Smoking in general is bad for your health, but the only purpose of this ban is to remove second hand smoke outside. First off i am a smoker and i do care about more then myself. Second, why do you feel that you have the right to make this ban and infringe on my rights for no reason other then for your own personal gain? You said smokers were self centered but it really seems like its the other way around. The last thing I have to say is that the surgeon general hasn't published anything i could locate that stated that walking past someone smoking outside with a avg wind speed of 12.2mph had negative effects on said person. Smoking and indoor second hand smoke may be dangerous but the effects of outdoor second hand smoke in a place as windy as fargo is a joke.
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+4 # Dictionary Reader 2009-10-27 10:20
Really... propaganda? Perhaps Adam should invest in a dictionary to learn what propaganda is. Also, likening student govt to racists, communists, terrorists, and totalitarian organizations, really? And you're a journalism major? Wow, the spectrum has fallen so far...
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# Kaitlin Doyle 2009-10-27 12:27
Perhaps he was being hyperbolic as a way to drive his point home, like student government was with their brochures.

This is just an observation.
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+1 # Mike 2009-10-27 17:00
What in the brochures was hyperbolic?
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+13 # Patrick Coghlan 2009-10-27 10:21
Everyone knows it is your cover letter where you can rant about the fact you banned smoking on campus, not a resume! OOOO silly.
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+1 # Mike 2009-10-27 11:24
I will remind you that the 60-70% of students who did not vote voluntarily chose not do so. I think we need to protect the right of nonvoters to remain neutral. In 2008, Hoeven only got 48.11% of the Voting age population, while Obama got 32.6%. In 1984, when Reagan won 49 states, he only got 31.2% of the voting age population.

The reason we did not say "Secondhand smoke only hurts people indoors" in the brochures is that, unlike the Spectrum, we only put down things that have some sort factual basis.

I'm assuming nobody will come to Student Government to ask for funds for the Spectrum/BOSP this spring since approving funds is a function, and Student Government has no function.
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-3 # Mikes Alter Ego 2009-10-27 14:47
Quoting Mike:
If a newspaper writes a critical opinion editorial of Student Government, we'll make it so they can never publish again! Mwah ha ha ha ha!!


People cannot voluntarily decide not to vote about something they didn't know was up for a vote. That's not voluntarily not voting, that's just inadequately informing the students that there is an issue to vote on.

But nice threats; that made you look good.
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+4 # Mike 2009-10-27 15:05
First, I want to say that when commenting on this article, I am NOT representing the views of student government as a whole.

That comment was not as threat, I was merely trying to make a point that, contrary to what this article says, SG does serve a function, it approves the funds for the Spectrum/BOSP. I will not vote to cut BOSP's budget just because of this article.

Also, I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure listserve messages were sent out, and email NDSU's primary mode of communication. That means you are responsible for any results of not knowing what was sent.
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-5 # Mikes Alter Ego 2009-10-27 15:30
See, not even you are sure if this matter was sent out over the listserv. Don't you think such a controversial issue merited more than just an announcement on the listserv, nestled in between the 10-15 messages daily about groups that have only a few members of a 14,000 student body?

If you, an active member of the student government and body, cannot even explain how the students would have known about the vote, how can you think it's reasonable to say "students are responsible for the stuff they don't know about." You can't even tell us how we would have known!
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+2 # Mike 2009-10-27 16:58
I'm not sure if it was sent over the listserve, butI know it was advertized on the NDSU homeplage, you-are-here signs, a table in the union, announcements in some classes, and many other places.
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# Anna 2009-11-02 18:14
It was sent over the listserv. That is how I voted. It was also advertised quite well in the Union and in the little advertisement holders in the dining center. I remember all of this because I friends with several smokers who pissed and moaned about it.
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# Steven 2009-10-30 13:41
There was plenty of advertising for the smoking ban. There were emails, fliers, signs, posters, word of mouth, etc.

If you didnt know about the ban/vote on it you were either hiding under a rock or didnt give a crap. 'Nuff said
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+1 # Student 2009-11-17 09:26
Or, you live off campus and work a full-time job. It's possible to care about your campus, but be busy. I don't live under a rock. I just don't spend all my time in the union, but that's a pretty weak argument for saying I live under a rock.

So what might have been plenty for you, it turns out, was not plenty enough for all of the students. So maybe you live under a rock, the one with all the fliers and a listserv email?

No, that's shoddy logic. I won't be that base. You probably don't live under a rock.
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-1 # Johnnie Cochran 2009-10-27 22:05
I have one final thing I want you to consider. This is Chewbacca. Chewbacca is a Wookiee from the planet Kashyyyk. But Chewbacca lives on the planet Endor. Now think about it; that does not make sense! Why would a Wookiee, an eight-foot tall Wookiee, want to live on Endor, with a bunch of two-foot tall Ewoks? That does not make sense! But more important, you have to ask yourself: What does this have to do with this case? Nothing. Ladies and gentlemen, it has nothing to do with this case! It does not make sense! Look at me. I'm a lawyer defending a major record company, and I'm talkin' about Chewbacca! Does that make sense? Ladies and gentlemen, I am not making any sense! None of this makes sense! And so you have to remember, when you're in that jury room deliberatin' and conjugatin' the Emancipation Proclamation, does it make sense? No! Ladies and gentlemen of this supposed jury, it does not make sense! If Chewbacca lives on Endor, you must acquit! The defense rests.
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# ryan 2009-11-09 23:21
With liberty and justice for all.

Disclaimer: void where prohibited, must be 18 years of age, some restrictions do apply.
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